The Leader Struggles with Interest

Leaders usually do one of two things: they meaningfully challenge the status quo; or they meaningfully resist a challenge to the status quo. In this episode, Jonathan discovers that he does both. He then struggles with his dislike for the word “interest” in answering this next Amplify question.

1:35       Reflections on how it feels to give that oldest part of you a voice.

04:07    The urge to escape the human.

05:38    Nostalgia is not a vision

06:13    Making our human life together better interests me.

09:18    Demonstrating two forms of leadership.

11:35    The need for tremendous discernment in leadership.

13:25    I have a deep sense that many are living in some form of resistance.

17:50    Do good people have to be swimming against the tide?

19:00    Reference cards:  Illumify definition, Enleaven definition, Guidelines.

20:30    Explanation of the Amplify stage.

22:04    Card 27: Why is this in their interests?

24:50    If the vision is truthful, it will matter to people’s hearts first and foremost.

28:22    We can’t make decisions unless we feel something.

29:50    Quickly signing up or seeing it in their interests problematic.

30:50    Interest vs. self-interest.

36:50    The vision may always be self-serving for them, hitting at their secret fears.

38:40    The heartache is the key to action.

41:40    You have to appreciate their state of mind, even if you don’t share it.

43:20    How to harness individual private activity to a public good?

43:48    Final answer.